April 3, 2009

  • signal chain

    today jack and mark are recording guitars. i thought it would be nice, for the 5 people who read this and have interest in such things, to include a description of our guitar signal path. so, here goes:

    first, we plug a 1/4 inch instrument cable into something, like a guitar, like this one for instance.

    guitar

    then we plug the other end of the cable into this amp switcher.

    switcher

    it has a pretty blue light.

    the reason we do this is so that we can split the signal from the guitar. one cable goes directly into a patch bay that sends it to a preamp, that then sends it back to the patchbay, that then sends it into protools as a direct signal. this is so we can re-amp stuff later if we don’t like the tone and has the great benefit of ease of editing the waves of a direct guitar line are much easier to edit.

    out of the other side of the amp switcher we plug into a pedal board, like this one.

    pedalboard

    or maybe we don’t plug into a pedal board and instead, plug into something more awesome like this.

    danopedal

    that was sort of a joke. unless you own that pedal and are into that sort of thing. in that case, it is just down right mean that i would make fun of it. i am sorry.

    then out of the pedal board, or awesomer pedal, we then plug into an amp head, like this one.

    ampheads

    that goes into a cabinet that we put two mics on like this.

    orange

    one, directly on the center of the cone up against the grill, and one about an inch back, just a bit out of phase.

    then we run those into a console, like this.

    guitarchnls

    we blend the second mic with the first to taste using the second mic to, in essence, adjust eq of the first by jacking with the phase.

    these tracks are bussed to one one track, like this.

    subgroupmix

    then we send that to a purple compressor, like this one.

    purple

    i like purple.

    we then go into protools through an aurora converter and then we smile very large smiles.

Comments (42)

  • that was sort of a joke. unless you own that pedal and are into that
    sort of thing. in that case, it is just down right mean that i would
    make fun of it. i am sorry.

    HAHAHAHA
    too complicated for me to understand
    pedal board
    _esther

  • and the smiles translate into numerous ones depending on the chords/beeps/whirls/blips/upchuck (i saw the video) noises per song…

  • Isn’t owning a pedalboard so much fun? People keep trying to tell me that a Pod X3 Live is so much easier than a pedalboard, but nothing makes me happier than trying out a new pedal.  I have a couple of the goodies on that very board, or at least identical makes and models.

    Please tell me the Daddy-O is getting used somewhere in the new recordings! You should so have a hidden track done completely with cheap garage band gear on a 4 track TASCAM cassette recorder, with four well placed (or perhaps not so well placed) condensers. Use no-name brand stuff and “strat-style” starter guitars. To top it all off… make it still completely rock!

    Looking forward to your new recording!

  • I think I have your guitar!  Arctic white Tele?

  • lakers wear purple, therefore you must be a laker fan.  good stuff, good stuff

  • Holy cow, that is so cool! EEeeeeee!!!!

    (girly moment of the day)

  • that amp micing technique is down right insanity.

  • Amp switcher really does have a pretty blue light :)

    Looks pretty cool

  • @samuelock - I’m so gonna use that technique next week!  I can’t book any decent condensers, so two dynamics like that look pretty awesome.

    I love watching people work in the studio!

  • the daddy o? i much prefer the “grilled cheese”.

  • Wow, my head hurts… I need some Motrin. 

  • I wholeheartedly agree with the Big Pirate’s comment up there.

  • that’s so awesome how much work you guys put into that =) thank you!

  • Awesome… simply awesome.. now, can you give us some more music please?  Looking forward to the new release, along with a date at Sonshine Festival in my hometown of Willmar, MN this summer.

  • if it weren’t for the daddy-o, i might not be in the business of meddling with guitar pedals. 6 years and 23 pedals later. . . 

  • Very cool. Pete

  • i have that pedal =[ just kidding. my church has that pedal.  ive been wanting to play with it, but never get around to it.

  • More than five people
    The blue light is very pretty
    I like the purple

  • For Pete’s sake!!  Well I learned something today. You must have a dilly of an electric bill, Buddy!  :o )  Me, nothing personal, I like drums (even though you guys are the bestest with guitars ever!) and I think things are a whole lot easier for B-Whack, aren’t they? God Bless! Still praying for you. Looking forward to the new stuff!!!!

  • so the amp switched into the patchbay to pre amp back to patch bay seems quite brilliant, but i don’t quite get it…

    is it because saves headaches for later when you need to fix up mistakes?  you jsut re-amp an old guitar signal?  why would you have it pre-amped before you record it into protools?  is it for tone or just bringing the signal up to line level or what?  i am so lost.

    but i laughed about the danelectro

  • This is relevant to my interests.

  • i think i’m actually salivating at this setup.

  • if only i had finished college i would get the why & how of the pluggy thingy stuff

  • Hahaha, I love, love, love, love your blogs :) You guys are AWESOME. 

  • noice. See, as a guitarist/wannabe-recording artist, I’m learning a thing or two from you guys. in other words … this is relevant to my interests, as well.

  • “And the music goes round and round, whoa -o-o-o—o-o, and it comes out here!”

    couldn’t resist.

  • wow, everything about that makes so much sense.  it all makes me realize how little i actually know about how to properly wield an axe.  you, my friends, are lumberjacks.

  • I, who am one of your 5 readers, am not a guitar player. But, you’re right…the lights sure are pretty!

  • I want to see Hogan’s pedalboard!  I run my violin through pedals, too!  And this whole entry had me glued with interest.

  • i LOVE purple!

  • Hey Dave, do your amps “got to 11?” You guys need to do a Youtube vid spoof of “This is Spinal Tap” showing off this signal chain. I bet you guys can do fantastic British accents.

  • Lynx makes some very fine converters.  Happy to hear about the signal chain!  Makes perfect sense.

  • I’ve never heard of using phasing to adjust EQ. I guess phasing does adjust the end result in some way… but that seems unpredictable, and most people are principally “anti-phase”… still… its so crazy it just might work! Unless you’re referring to the XY mic position. But I doubt you are because the purpose of that is to remove phasing. Or you’re producing 2 tracks on Pro-Tools, one to create a “foundation” and the other for you to tweak. But it would be easier just to use the “duplicate” feature in Pro-tools… I’ll need to play with this one!

  • Most brilliant part of the setup:

    Out of phase mics for EQ purposes. Astounding. Bravo.

  • Love the setup, and the Micing technique.  Super duper two in one is killer, and I want to hear that EVH being used on this record!!

    Thanks for posting this, I was actually wondering what you guys were doing in all of the great studio videos, now I know for sure.

  • Love Signal Path. Makes me Happy.

  • Was that a Greg the Bunny reference? Awesome stuff..

  • Nice Toft ATB, have you ever used a creation audio labs MW1 to reamp? Michael Wagner was just at our studio an intorduced it to us. It’s a nice little box.. do you use the toft pre’s or just the eq’s? Are you using any outboard pre’s on guitars or just comps? just curious….and you did post a blog about it.  

    http://www.creationaudiolabs.com/mw1studiotool 

  • i love this entry.

    i think you have some major grammatical errors in the final sentence of the amp splitter paragraph. i’ve copy pasted for your conenience:

    “this is so we can re-amp stuff later if we don’t like the tone and has
    the great benefit of ease of editing the waves of a direct guitar line
    are much easier to edit.”

    first time i’ve ever struggled to read your writing.
    i’ll let this one slide.

  • I’m going to try the phasing of the “114″ next time I record my electric…cool stuff.

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